Singletraction Forum

"We" i.e. Stainburn appears to have been featured in Wide Open Mag:

http://wideopenmag.co.uk/news/5316/wideopenmag-issue-12-is-here

Interesting ........

Reads like it's locals only and they are the only locals

I might email him and ask him to show me round.

Build it and they will come........



........with no thanks whatsoever.

Sam is the Ilkley Downhill association lad, think we met him and his dad possibly ages ago? also At leat one of them was one of the lads who where building on Fox crag a while ago.

Are some of the pictures on Aldos , looks like it has been 'developed' to some degree, might be worth keeping an eye on it make sure it stays within FE limits

The line shown is not Aldos it is a new line which has "appeared" starting about 100m before aldos and joining it just after the steep bit.

New line in Norwood also running from the top of the steep climb after the traverse to the fire road and then straight down, cuts a couple of corners on the XC line straight down the hill, including a berm built across the XC line, which has now gone. and a shonky jump.

The skinny on Norwood side has been destryed by FE WHY WHYWHYWHYWHY the structure was well built and would be good for another 10 year what bunch of wankers, they obviously have no concept of the time and effort that goes in to these things

I might drop a line to Wide Open mag and put that article in its proper context. Might also drop a line to Sam as his website's not exactly hard to find on the www.

Still, it's not us building unsanctioned stuff and it's FE's job to police the wood so you do get tempted to just leave them to sort these things out for themselves. But then you realise it's all the more likely to blow back on us, despite it being nothing to do with us, so we keep plugging on, trying to do their job for them.

The sooner we get back into Norwood and restablish the proper route the better, IMO. Whether telling the unsanctioned builders that what they're doing jeopardises future development will have much luck, who knows. I'm sceptical. I'm pretty sure we explained the realities of unsanctioned trail building to Sam by email after the Norwood Crag lines sprung up.


Sorry to hear about the skinny, I thought they'd forgotten / changed their minds about removing it. I argued as hard as I could against them removing that but FE were adamant that all built structures had to be removed from that side (Norwood). I struggled to understand their reasons (the platform drop built by others was understandable, given the shonky construction) for doing so. I think I wrote to you and several others about it at the time

For FE it revolved around not having the time, effort and funds for inspections, and to some extent that it wasn't designed. I don't agree with any of the reasons, but after a certain point there is nothing I / we can do. They never really gave me a thorough breakdown of reasons, in writing, as I asked. What they did supply I think I posted up a while ago on the forum.

Very galling to be told things have to come out on a risk basis and then see the frankly awful standard of work to decommission them - just chainsawed through and the resulting bits left scattered around site, wire, nails, screws and fixings all over the place. I mentioned it to Nick (Beat Forester) and he promised to look into it but I don't know if this has happened or anything been done subsequently. Oh, and I pointed out it had been inspected and approved previously by FE.

Edit, found it: