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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:55 pm 
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Rode the decent line one night last week and on the whole enjoyed it.

Now I rode it on my DH Rig which was still in moelfre mode and had a heavy wheelset on with dh tyres and innertubes making the big girl about 44lbs so when I came grinning out of the wooded top section and hit the rocky ever so slightly up hill section it just killed all the speed and interupted what is a great little decent.

so question is, would it ever be considered to put an alt line in at this point and could the decent line get bigger drops and gap jumps etc to make it more DH or is it always going to be a 'half way house' of a decent?

would be great to see alt lines running next to the trail as it is now that catered more for big bikes.

anyway just a thought - and well done to the trail builders for what is there now (I know how hard it is to build these trails :wink: )

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:29 pm 
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Extra lines are unlikely but I think there are plans to "modify" the rocks after the left hand berm just out of the woods.


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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:48 pm 
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Simon B wrote:
Extra lines are unlikely but I think there are plans to "modify" the rocks after the left hand berm just out of the woods.


I hope so, if you could keep your speed up and over the little rocks, the big rock that would make a great drop.

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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:43 pm 
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Extra lines are planned to add black sections to the line but as Si said we will be tinkering with the rocks to make that work better in the short term.

First is as an alternative to the rocks which should have some small jumps rollers etc to help maintain speed.

Second will be to the left on the current rock boulder drop thingy and will have a "mandatory air" drop/step down and a double over the stream bringing you in higher into the first of the switchback corners so you can carry more speed in.

Had an idea for a third section but this would be well after the two above.

Wanted to build log ride to 5ft drop but fitting it in could be tricky

We wont be making a start for a while as need to finish the extension and clear Norwood before starting any new projects.

Having said that if we get the people to come and help built it and that's what most people want to work on then we can switch things around a little.

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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:29 pm 
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if you could keep your speed up and over the little rocks, the big rock that would make a great drop.


Did that drop year's ago on a fr rig that was in "fast as f**k" mode! 8)

Might want to try looking a bit closer to home with regards to the lack of speed issue buddy?! :wink:

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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:50 pm 
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:lol:

If Richie goes back trail building at Stainburn so am I, just to take the piss :twisted:

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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:46 am 
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if you could keep your speed up and over the little rocks, the big rock that would make a great drop.


Did that drop year's ago on a fr rig that was in "fast as f**k" mode! 8)

Might want to try looking a bit closer to home with regards to the lack of speed issue buddy?! :wink:


I agree mate on the heckler it would be fine, thats why I'm asking if there are plans to make other dh lines etc.

and I agree lack of speed due to stick legs and 44llbs bike with no gravity to assist :)

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:32 pm 
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I think you misunderstand we don't plan on making any downhill lines or lines for downhill bikes but we are planning on making alternative black graded sections and try improve the flow of the trail in a few places

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I understood fine mate. :D

it is a shame there is no "downhill" trail at stainburn though.

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
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I understood fine mate. :D

it is a shame there is no "downhill" trail at stainburn though.


It'd only attract riff-raff mate :wink:

I hear there are some really sweet DH lines in the Nidd though, apparently some of the push-ups are REALLY sweet ........

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Steve Cockerham wrote:
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I understood fine mate. :D

it is a shame there is no "downhill" trail at stainburn though.


It'd only attract riff-raff mate :wink:

I hear there are some really sweet DH lines in the Nidd though, apparently some of the push-ups are REALLY sweet ........


back of focus is where all the gravity slaves hang out :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:21 am 
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The real problem with Stainburn is that the hill simply isn't steep enough for a DH track. The big bikes tacky tyres etc need a big hill to let them keep momentum (talent permitting) there are places on site which have the required gradient and features but they are very short in length and there are better DH runs in Calverley and Esholt. Besides if you are serious about DH you need to do to Carlton bank, Silton, Hamsterley, AE etc etc

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:53 am 
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Maybe that's the problem :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:36 pm 
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Knacker wrote:
Besides if you are serious about DH you need to do to Carlton bank, Silton, Hamsterley, AE etc etc



I think spending a small fortune on a DH bike and entering DH races is quite serious matey! UK bike park is the next race on 24th of april and then either Hamsterly and cearsws or uk bike park again for may - trying to race at least one a month.

we were at carlton bank on saturday and we usually ride a DH trail most weekends....(you forgot to mention wharncliffe :) )

it's just nice to pop up the stainburn on an evening and get a bit of training in...does me good to pedel the big bike.

plus the decent line would almost qualify for a 661 mini downhill event....wouldn't need a lot doing....

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Steve Cockerham wrote:
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Maybe that's the problem :lol:


you are quite welcome to come and show me how it's done steve....if you think you could handle it :P

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:23 pm 
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My point being if you want to practice for the type of courses you find at the races Stainburn isn't ideal.

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:14 pm 
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EVIL wrote:
Steve Cockerham wrote:
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Maybe that's the problem :lol:


you are quite welcome to come and show me how it's done steve....if you think you could handle it :P


Yeah I know that mate but I'm more than happy for you to keep warbling on about it :wink:

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My point being if you want to practice for the type of courses you find at the races Stainburn isn't ideal.


agreed but it's close and it's got a lot going for it.

anyway we have stryed from the original topic and as usual steve and chilli (the chuckle brothers) have stormed in on any thing I post - even a serious thread - tut!

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 Post subject: Re: The decent line...
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:39 pm 
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so where would you say the best place for DH would be around/close to Leeds then?


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batesie wrote:
so where would you say the best place for DH would be around/close to Leeds then?


Leeds and surrounding areas are pretty flat, so there isn't really anything with a decent enough gradient or length within Leeds itself. Wharncliffe, Silton Forest, Carlton Bank and Storthes Hall are all under an hour from Leeds and definitely worth a trip to.


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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:06 pm 
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What about the Nidd ? :smt003

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EVIL wrote:
anyway we have stryed from the original topic and as usual steve and chilli (the chuckle brothers) have stormed in on any thing I post - even a serious thread - tut!


Now that really IS the best case of pot-kettle-black I've ever seen :wink:

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